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10 Questions to ask before hiring a CPA in the cannabis industry


Questions to help hire your cannabis CPA
Joseph Bailey, CPA


You have likely tried to google "280E CPA", "cannabis CPA", “cannabis tax” etc. and found that your options seem to be somehow limitless and horribly limited at the same time. 

Whether your State is legal for adult use (such as Oregon, Washington, Alaska, California, Colorado, etc.) or medically legal (29 States), the tax implications remain the same, and finding a good CPA can be daunting. Just getting to a good list of questions to ask a cannabis CPA can be impossible. 

We have been in the cannabis industry for years, helped hundreds and hundreds of businesses, and often are asked about what makes for a "good" cannabis focused CPA. 
The list below, while not exhaustive, should help point you in the right direction and at least weed out (pun certainly intended) folks who simply will not meet basic requirements. 

1. What certifications do you hold? 

A lot of the folks entering the industry are doing so out of lack of options versus passion for the industry. As such, does your CPA have an accounting degree, CPA (certified public accountant) certification, EA (enrolled agents), MBA (Master of Business Admin)? Different certifications can provide a certain level of assurance as to expected quality of tax return preparation, and highlights more importantly what someone is NOT certified to do. Make sure your CPA/EA/etc. has the background and certifications you need. 

Beyond this, it is good to check on where someone is licensed, then actually go to that State Accountancy Board website and look up that person's license. From there you will have a good view as to whether they have been disciplined by an Accountancy Board currently or in the past.

2. How many years’ experience do you have? 

This should be obvious, but in this industry, you really don't want your CPA to be learning their craft on your business. There is a GIANT amount of learning curve that CPA's undergo in the first 5 years of practice, let alone the first few years in cannabis. This is even more so when a CPA can achieve employment with a "Big 4" firm (we will discuss this in a later point).

3. What industries have you worked in?

Outside of understanding cannabis specific issues and practices, having a CPA with a varied background will be quite beneficial as they will have insights that someone who has been wedged in one industry for 20 years just won't have. Experience in retail, manufacturing, agriculture industries is an obvious benefit as well. 

4. Have you worked internally for any cannabis companies?

This is a bit of a BONUS style question. You will be able to find CPA's who do not have operational/inside experience working within a cannabis company, that will still be able to help you achieve great success. But if you have two CPA's that are 100% matched against each other, wherein one has managed internally, I would likely utilize the services of the CPA with internal experience as they will have seen things that someone on the outside looking in will not have had exposure from. 

5. Why did you join the industry?

At BCC, we are here to help an underrepresented class of businesses and owners, support a community and culture that we love, and we have a special set of skills and background that can and have greatly impacted business owners. 

Now, you would think a CPA in this industry would be prepared to answer this question, but you will be surprised by the answer you get from a lot of people. If your CPA isn't PASSIONATE about this industry, they will at some point place their cannabis clients at the bottom of the pile. Why? There are just easier ways to make money as a CPA than working with cannabis companies. At this current level of maturity of the industry, there is a lot of hand holding, revisions, and messy clean up that takes place within these companies.

6. Do you use IRC 263A to allocate mixed service costs?

This will not mean much to you now, but it is a VERY important part of limiting IRC 280E impact on cannabis companies. If your CPA is not using 263A, you are overpaying on taxes, plain and simple. 

7. How do you deliver sensitive information to clients?
CPA's tend to be behind the times, which means they are still handling a lot of business via paper, as well as sending a lot of personal information through email. You want to work with someone that can operate paperless (saves time and money) and utilizes secure servers and means of delivering info to you. There is already plenty of risk in this industry, you really don't want to have to worry about sensitive information being stolen electronically due to lax data security protocols. 

8. Have you or any of your staff ever been convicted of a non-traffic related crime? Was that crime directly related to your work?

Do you really need an explanation here? The public tends to think that if someone has a CPA license that it means they have never been in trouble... think again. There are plenty of FELONS that are CPA's, you should probably make sure that your CPA isn't one of them. "Street Cred" isn't something your CPA needs.

9. Do you have experience working in public accounting? Was any of that experience at the "Big 4" level?

A CPA that has only ever worked internally at a company will not have had the opportunity to work on the amount and varying type of issues that someone in public accounting will have seen. Now, that experience may be EXACTLY what you need, but usually that is only the case when someone is looking to hire a CFO, not a CPA. 

Discussing the Big 4 is usually where CPA's without Big 4 experience get upset. Please note, I am not saying that being a Big 4 accounting firm alumnus makes you better than someone without that experience. Remember "Big 4" is simply a reference to the biggest four CPA firms in the US. PwC, Ernst Young, Deloitte, and KPMG. 

When a CPA has a background in Big 4, especially for an extended number of years, that person has been through ten times the number of situations that someone from a small firm has seen. This isn't to say that they aren't as good of a CPA, I am simply pointing out that your chances of finding a high-level CPA are greater with a Big 4 accountant as they have been subjected to a large amount of high level, high stress work with very high expectations of completion and quality. Again, Big 4 experience doesn't mean the CPA will be great, but I personally find that the chances of hiring a good CPA go up when looking at Big 4 candidates versus non-Big 4 candidates (all other things equal of course)

10. Have you successfully defended any clients in the face of an IRS audit?

This will simply help put the cherry on top of the interview as it will get to the heart of the CPA candidate's experience level. "Pump and dump" firms exist all over the place, including the cannabis industry. They are attentive when accepting retainers, attentive to get your e-file form signed, then you never hear from them again. Preparing a return is one thing, defending it under IRS audit is another matter altogether. If you are looking for a CPA to partner with your company for success, having even minor tax audit experience will be beneficial.




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How do I open a cannabis bank account?



tips for opening cannabis bank account


Okay, so there is no central bank doing business with cannabis, but that doesn't mean it is 
the end of our search.

Your best course of action is to have you are looking into, though I will be honest and just let you know your best luck is at a credit union. When setting appointments or speaking with someone live, always be honest about what your company does, really does.

The banking question eventually (usually) turns into ... "Can I just open a bank account and not tell them I am in cannabis?" While you may be able to obtain a bank account through omission or outright lying, we advise you do not do this. Eventually, your clandestine account will be shutdown, and it usually happens at the absolute worst possible time. Note that the shutting down of your bank account may also include a temporary freezing of the funds in the account which can devastate already cash strapped businesses.




Steps to get a cannabis bank account

Route 1

Ask around to others in the industry in your State. In Oregon, for instance MAPS Credit Union and Salal Credit Union both do direct, transparent banking business with the cannabis industry. This varies greatly state by state, so getting recommendations from others in your position is always the best starting point.

If you can find "friendly banks/credit unions", call first and set an appointment and ask them what documents need to be provided, which applications should be completed, etc.
When you show up and apply, you must show up looking and acting the part of a business owner, with all documents and applications completed fully and correctly. Sound like a stupid point to make? Of course you will do that right?! From my experience, wrong! People quite often go the lazy approach and put the onus on the bank to let them know how to do something.

Let me tell you, you are not the only person looking to get that cannabis account. You are not a beautiful snowflake to them, your business being social conscious doesn't matter, and quite frankly they likely have a large backlog of applicants to go through and approve/deny. If there are 10 other companies who did everything perfect and then there is you with half the documents completed, you are absolutely guaranteed to be pushed to the bottom of the list. With waiting times, that could extend your wait time by months.

Ensure you understand the fees being charged, and what information you will be required to provide to the bank on a regular basis, before signing any documents to setup the account(s). Note that there will likely be a waiting period while you and your business are vetted by the bank/credit union.

Once the account is received, don't start celebrating too early! A LOT of cannabis companies lose their bank accounts at cannabis friendly institutions. Why? Because they do not properly maintain their data, documents, etc. and are eventually given the boot.

Route 2 (most common)

If you are approaching banks on a branch-by-branch basis, gather your organizational documents, tax returns (if any), your books, your seed-to-sale reports (where applicable), and make an appointment to speak with the manager of the specific bank or credit union. When making the appointment, be crystal clear why you are making the appointment. There is no point in being coy, only to find out you have wasted your time, travel, etc. when they tell you right away they will not work with cannabis companies.

Show up to your appointment in a suit, have your documentation in order, and be ready to answer any and all questions posed.

If a question is asked and you do not know the answer, tell them "good question, I am not positive on the answer, I will make sure I gather this info and get it to you ASAP". The worst thing you can do is make things up, at some point they are going to know, don't waste anyone's time.

Please do not get discouraged if and when a bank says "no" to you, it will happen at least a few times. But once you do secure the relationship, you will know you have secured open, transparent banking, with an institution that is willing to work through issues with you.
If the bank is going to decline to offer you banking, ask them to provide the declination via letter. 

This is a real **Pro tip**, saving those letters can save you the 10% cash penalty the IRS charges corporations who pay in cash. I wrote more about that in another blog post. 

- Joseph Bailey, CPA




For assistance, email info@B-Cconsulting.com and visit BC Consulting website